Wednesday, October 13, 2010

Shocking quote?!, well not really :)

Hi everyone,

Yes I know my blog has been pretty still between posts I have done about living history events and family trips, but I have been quite busy with college, family, realizing that blogging is not first priority and getting ready for another reenactment this friday as well as learning to drive. So yes I have been quite busy.

I came across this quote below today while re-reading Verses of Virtue by Elizabeth Beall Phillips. A friend of mine was reading it and did not understand what some of the quotes and poetry meant. So I wanted to re-read it so I could explain to her some of the quotes and poetry. This young lady I am not sure knows very much about femininism or what Biblical womanhood is all about. So I wanted to be able to give her my opinion of the book properly by reading it again. I also was reading Alyssa's blog post about feminism and it reminded me of the quote I read today below.

But I came across this strong quote below that I did not expect. Queen Victoria I never knew was against feminism, but in the new movie about called The Young Victoria she seems to go from relying on herself to being her husbands helpmate. So thats encouraging. This quote determined my opinion of her as being a woman again "womens rights".



"I am most anxious to enlist everyone who can speak or write to join in checking this mad, wicked folly of "Women's Rights," with all its attending horrors, on which her poor feeble sex is bent, forgetting every sense of womanly feelings and propriety. Feminists ought to get a good whipping. Were woman to "unsex" themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection.
I love peace and quiet, I hate politics and turmoil. We women are not made for governing, and if we are good women, we must dislike these masculine occupations." -Queen Victoria, 1870 from the book Verses of Virtue by Bealle Philips

Now just to make my opinion very clear. I do not want to slap anybody in the face and I would not go about expressing my opinion on the subject of womens roles in society and the church in the way Queen Victoria did, but I agree with her. If you asked in the comments section or in real life I would be very clear, but I would not say you must believe what I believe or all feminists should be whipped for their opinions. Frankly, all of us have fallen short of the glory of God and sinned despite our opinions on womens rights we are all sinners. Therefore I should have been killed for my sins just like any other human being on this earth, but Jesus died for all of us instead.


We can see though in Scripture that the woman will have a desire to be in the role that her husband or men are in after the fall. " Your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you." Genesis 3:16. The Lord said this to the women, so me this is the first instance in history where the women as we can see would have a desire for a feminist mind set and not a godly mindset for her role in serving the Lord.

So that said, I believe that women have different roles in life and the church from men. I believe that women are not made to govern, I believe its between every father and daughter, and every husband and wife as to if the women in a family should vote or express their opinions in politics in that way. I myself do vote and I vote for whom my father is voting for to respect him. This is what my family does, I am not saying you must do what I do. But from what the Bible says and what God has told me I am abiding by His Word that women are different from men, but under God we are both sinners in need of Him as our Savior. Therefore both men and women have equal rights under God. One is not better than the other in Gods eyes. So we both can have communion with our Savior and serve Him, but we serve the Lord in different ways. I believe that men should be the pastors, elders and deacons in churches because this is a representation of the Gospel message. It represents Christ and how He sacrificed Himself for the church. This analogy sums up for me womens roles in the church and society.

Also do go and read Isaiah chapters 3 and 4 if you want to see prophesy about feminism and how it would become what it is starting to look in the 21st century all around the world. It really suprised me and I am not sure why when I realized what these two passages in the Word were about. It should not though as the Lords Word is our guide for our lives and He addresses everything we need to be able to see His Truth, even feminism and womens roles.

So this is a topic I have not expressed about before on this blog, but I felt it was a topic that is really needed to be discussed on my blog. I want to start blogging more about controversial topics and the Bible even more. I still do not have a camera, so I felt that after discussing it with my sister and good friend and other people and reading the Word about it I would post my opinion. Again this is my opinion and if you believe differently you can express that. I am not pushing anyone to believe what I believe, just sharing what the Lord has shown me in my study of the Scriptures and societys views on womens roles.

On a lighter note these verses from Philippians have really encouraged me this past week through some tough days.
" Rejoice in the Lord always; again I say rejoice, Let your reasonableness be made known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; do not be anxious about anything, but in prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace that surpasses all understanding will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." -Philippians 4:4-7

The Lord is guarding my heart even though its been attacked and I am at peace because the Lord how knows all and surpasses all understanding is the Lord of my life. He is my sercurity and my strong hold in times of trouble. He is the way to go through this life. Praise the Lord for His comfort and peace!

May God bless you all and I pray you all would comment and express your opinions on womens roles in the Church and society. What has the Lord revealed to you about your role and how to serve Him?

In Christ,
Rebecca

17 comments:

Eva Girl said...

What I great quote! It's how I feel exactly - but I don't share it that boldly too often. So, many women don't understand how precious they are as women! Thank you for such a great reminder : )

Miss Virginia said...

I think that God's providence is that you lost your camera so you could find a new "voice" for your blog. :) Not that you shouldn't post pictures, but maybe that the loss of a camera is pushing you into areas you wouldn't normally go (which is good!). Keep it up! :D

Love,
~Ginny

SinginginHisName said...

Eva I agree its what I feel as well, but I don't put it as Victoria did. :)

Yes we women are special because we have a different role and compliment men. Since we both have different roles we can compliment each other. if we were clones of each other where would Gods hand in that be?

Ginny yes I do believe its been providential not having a camera. The Lord has made me see areas I needed to improve and still improve in my life and my blog. Miss you and maybe see you soon!

love and In Christ,
Rebecca

Stephanie Ann said...

Are you going to a rather large event in Virgina?

SinginginHisName said...

Yep its one of the big secular events my family attends every year. I won't tell though till I can do a blog post with pictures from the event. ;)

Amy said...

Hear hear! Strong words, but I really like that quote anyway. It's so difficult in our modern world to not be affected by feminism at all personal levels.

Caroline J said...

Thankyou for your blog Rebecca. i have just discovered your Blog and was very excited to find that you believe, love and care about all the things that i love. You encourage me to keep on listening to God and my heart. sometimes i feel like the only one for miles that feels this way about dressing modest and femininely. Godly Womenhood. etc. Thankyou. xo
Caroline.

Caroline J said...

Thankyou for your blog Rebecca. i have just discovered your Blog and was very excited to find that you believe, love and care about all the things that i love. You encourage me to keep on listening to God and my heart. sometimes i feel like the only one for miles that feels this way about dressing modest and femininely. Godly Womenhood. etc. Thankyou. xo
Caroline.

I said...

Lovely post, Becca! A smashing quote which not only speaks to the ladies of Victoria's era but also to the women of her future, us! Re-reading the quote and sharing it with my husband gave us much to discuss. I want to see Young Victoria again!:-) Cheerio, Ivis

SinginginHisName said...

I am so glad I could be of some encouragement to you all!

Amy yes hear hear! Its very hard to not be affected by the lie of feminism in our modern age! But the Lord is good protecting our hearts and our minds in Christ Jesus!

Caroline, lots of times I feel the same way, but then I am encouraged by my mother or my sister or other friends or even blogger friends! I am also encouraged when I read what the Bible has to say about my opposing views and then I remember the Lord is sovereign and He reigns and it does not matter what others believe about me or what they say, but that I am adhering to the soveriegn will of my Lord.

Ivis I am so glad you were encouraged as well. I am glad you and A were able to discuss the issue. I miss you and can't wait to see you tomorrow! My dress is still not done! I better get to sewing! :)

In Christ,
Rebecca

Stephanie Ann said...

I hope to see you there if we make it. It's a rather long drive and if it's too rainy we can't go. I was planning on having a tea party around 11 on Saturday if your ladies wished to attend.

SinginginHisName said...

Hi stephanie! Oh if you mean Ceder Creek we would love to see you! But we will not be able to come and have tea at 11, but if you would like we would love for you to come and visit us! We are having a sewing cirle at 2pm on saturday. We would love to get to know you better then. Just look for domestic activities in the living history area and that is us. I will keep an eye out for you.

In Christ,
Rebeecca

Stephanie Ann said...

I'll try and find you. I'll be alone this event. I hope to see a few people I know. I am the only civilian in my unit going. :D

silent_librarian said...

Awesome stuff! Preach it! ;-) I am all for discussing controversial issues in the Bible and our society so I fully support your decision. It is important that we discuss these things instead of brushing them under the rug. Truth is at stake here and it is important the Body of Christ not be blown away by winds of myths and false doctrines/ideas/beliefs. We have to stay rooted in His Word and part of that is discussing the Word with one another.

I am in total agreement with you on all what you said. I hadn't even noticed those verses before in Isaiah! That is really interesting and sobering to take note of! I totally believe that one of the most major problems of our society is that it has become feminized. Our men have become feminized and therefore there has been a breakdown in the sexes. I totally agree with Victoria's quote! Wow! She wasn't afraid to let them have it! Haha! Now I did support Sarah Palin and I do not have too much problem with women in politics. However, it should not be that way. Sarah Palin had the fire and gusto to do what her male counterparts weren't doing in politics. That is another sign of our society where the women have all the ambition, guts, and stamina while our men falter in cowardice and timidity. I don't know you own beliefs about Sarah Palin, hehe, but it is kind of like Deborah in the Bible. She didn't want to go to battle, but Barak wouldn't go without her, so she told him victory that day would be in the hands of a woman. Deborahs are needed because men will not step up and take a stand. However, I believe with much prayer and the Church returning to the Word, this can be corrected and men of the Church can once again stand strong.

Haha! Sorry for the long monologue! I definitely like talking about these sorts of things. :-)

silent_librarian said...

Awesome stuff! Preach it! ;-) I am all for discussing controversial issues in the Bible and our society so I fully support your decision. It is important that we discuss these things instead of brushing them under the rug. Truth is at stake here and it is important the Body of Christ not be blown away by winds of myths and false doctrines/ideas/beliefs. We have to stay rooted in His Word and part of that is discussing the Word with one another.

silent_librarian said...

I am in total agreement with you on all what you said. I hadn't even noticed those verses before in Isaiah! That is really interesting and sobering to take note of! I totally believe that one of the most major problems of our society is that it has become feminized. Our men have become feminized and therefore there has been a breakdown in the sexes. I totally agree with Victoria's quote! Wow! She wasn't afraid to let them have it! Haha! Now I did support Sarah Palin and I do not have too much problem with women in politics. However, it should not be that way. Sarah Palin had the fire and gusto to do what her male counterparts weren't doing in politics. That is another sign of our society where the women have all the ambition, guts, and stamina while our men falter in cowardice and timidity. I don't know you own beliefs about Sarah Palin, hehe, but it is kind of like Deborah in the Bible. She didn't want to go to battle, but Barak wouldn't go without her, so she told him victory that day would be in the hands of a woman. Deborahs are needed because men will not step up and take a stand. However, I believe with much prayer and the Church returning to the Word, this can be corrected and men of the Church can once again stand strong.

Haha! Sorry for the long monologue! I definitely like talking about these sorts of things. :-)

the W. family said...

Ah, is this the post you were talking about? It's great!!